By The Wiz
I have a large back yard. Currently, it’s a big pile of desert, with the occasional lizard or spider thrown in for good measure. Everyone looks at it, though, and says “oh, the potential!”
The potential. It’s killing me.
I am suddenly bombarded with decisions I am in no way qualified to make. My design sense is sorely lacking, so asking me what shape I want a pool and where I think it would look best and why is causing my synapses to snap. I come up with some stuff, and then they show me what it would look like, and it’s like “That kind of looks ridiculous. I hate it.” “But that’s what you said you wanted.” “Well, I was WRONG, then, wasn’t I?” Back to the drawing board.
Then you start getting into technicalities like filters and cleaning systems and covers and fences and those are just the terms I “understand.” There’s a lot of crap I just don’t get, and having somebody completely vested in getting me to spend as much money as possible explain it to me isn’t exactly helpful.
Then it’s “What else is going in the yard?” and “where” and “how much” and “what do YOU want?” and I want to scream “I DON’T KNOW I DON’T KNOW I DON’T KNOW” until everybody leaves me alone, rocking back and forth in the dark.
And I LOVE the argument “Well, if you plan on being in this house for a while…..(you should spend as much money as possible)….”
Of COURSE I plan on being here for a while. Moving does bad things to me, and we have bad house selling kharma, apparently, so I ain’t selling EVER. Does that REALLY mean I need a fire pit? Although that would be cool.
So we hired a landscape designer to help. I was hoping for her to say “Voila! Here’s your yard, it’ll look perfect and be exactly what you want.” But no, she keeps asking more of those questions to gauge what I want, and how can I tell you what I want if I’m not clear on it myself???? Plus, it’s just awesome when hubs and I disagree on what should be in the yard and where. It really helps these people out.
(What I really need is a Vulcan designer. Somebody who can do a mind meld with me, sort out the thoughts and vague pictures in my head, and then add their design sensibility to make it awesome. Although I wonder if Vulcans would find landscaping “illogical”.)
It reminds me very much of house hunting. It feels like such a permanent decision, or actually a whole series of permanent decisions, and if I get any of them wrong, well, then, too bad.
Maybe I should just stick with “having potential.” Have you ever noticed, not just in this particular situation, but constantly, that “having” potential is ever so much easier than “realizing” said potential?




The idea of a Vulcan landscape designer is making me giggle.
I like landscaping that doesn’t require much in the way of effort from me. Rectangular grassy areas for easy mowing. Garden areas where I can reach to the middle from the edge, for easy weeding. I thought the desert-scaping in the front was going to be pretty low maintenance, but since we moved in we’ve had to cut down one of the trees because it died, and then one of our spiny resilient supposed-to-be-practically-impossible-to-kill bushes has also decided to die off, and our remaining tree in the front sheds tree bits year round into the gravel that have to be raked/filtered out.
Anyway…if you get a rectangular pool, it may not be as pretty, but it makes the pool fence really easy to decide about. My in-laws don’t have a pool cover, it never gets cold enough out to really need one, and they clean their pool and its filter regularly. Putting the pool in a part of the yard that gets some shade from the fence/neighbor’s house/whatever is nice for swimming in the middle of the summer, but having it in a sunny spot keeps the water warmer which is nice for swimming the rest of the year. Fire pits are pretty cool, marshmallow and hot dog roasting any time of the year, but you can build one yourself I’d imagine fairly easily if you can find some big rocks.
Comment #1 by kaduseyAugust 20th, 2009 at 10:57 amUgh. This reminds me of when I got married. My bridesmaids INSISTED that I pick out the fabric for their dresses since I was the bride. Despite the fact that I knew NOTHING about fabric or sewing and had never set foot in a fabric store before. Fabric looks very different on the bolt than in a dress. I learned this the hard way. I blame them for their ugly bridesmaid dresses. They REALLY should have had someone who knew what they were doing decide. I’m a buy it off the rack kind of girl for a reason!
Good luck. I too am landscape and even home decor challenged. I don’t have a creative, artistic, crafty bone in my body. I’m just too practical to see things that way. It stinks now that I’m a married woman and expected to have these home design skills. I feel like a freak to my gender. Oh well. I figure somebody has to employ the creative people and that I CAN do.
Comment #2 by FairchildAugust 20th, 2009 at 11:19 amUgh. Your designer should come to you with maybe three very nice sketches or plans of the yard. Then, you have a visual, and you can say: I like that! or Get rid of that!. You can pick and choose, and they she can put together a final plan that incorporates the things you HAVE SEEN.
Designers are people who can visualize. We can imagine and literally “see” in our minds what it will look like. A typical person has a harder (if not impossible) time with this, and she needs to give you visuals.
If your designer cannot do this, get a new one. (Or let me come stay!) (Nah, I’m horrible with landscape…)
Comment #3 by Tracy MAugust 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pmI hate yard work and making decisions about the yard. I had a great yard with lots of potential at my last house, but in the end we did nothing with it. I am not sorry, since we didn’t live there long. However, I regret not having the motivation to ever do something cool with my yard. I guess that is something I am going to have to work up to.
On another note, I totally know how it feels to make a big decision and wonder if it was the right one. I am always second guessing myself. It gets very painful to my psyche to go over and over every dumb decision I’ve made.
Comment #4 by Haiku AmyAugust 20th, 2009 at 12:45 pmShe has come to me with plans, and yes, they’re very pretty. Very. But they don’t reflect “me” or what I want very well yet. Hopefully we can get to a place that pleases everyone.
Tracy, I would love it if you, or my other friend who is a designer, could come stay while we work this out. Then you can all speak artistic together while I stand in the corner and chew my nails.
Comment #5 by The WizAugust 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pmRecently I sat down with a developer to design this big website project I’m working on. I was totally the same way. He would ask me what I wanted the site to look like. I wanted to say, “I don’t know. I just don’t want it to look stupid,” but I kept trying to vocalize my completely ambivalent preferences. I wasn’t much help. I couldn’t even pick any colors I liked or didn’t like. Can’t he just design about 20 different sites and I’ll tell him which one I like best? I mean, he’s got all the time in the world to make me happy, right? Anyway, I feel your pain.
Comment #6 by Steph @ Diapers and DivinityAugust 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pmI’m gonna throw my 2 cents in, do with it what you will
. I too have trouble taking a “blank slate” and trying to put together what I want or would want or should want, blah, blah. So I start looking at pictures, lots of them; online, in magazines, books, anywhere and everywhere. I created a folder on my desktop and would copy and drop any picture that I liked into it. I would cut out or mark pictures in magazines and books that I liked. After gathering a bit, when you go back and look through them you may find a pattern that you are drawn to; certain colors, shapes, sizes, etc. It can help narrow it all down. Save any and all pictures that appeal to you, regardless of whether you know why. Best of luck!
Comment #7 by PokeyannAugust 20th, 2009 at 1:52 pmI need a vulcan kitchen designer. You know, for when I’m living somewhere with more than 500 sq. ft.
Funny, I was just talking about this very concept with my husband.
Comment #8 by EmilyCAugust 20th, 2009 at 2:25 pmPokeyann has the right idea. Collect images of yards you really like. Who cares why, don’t worry about it- just rip them out of magazines and gradually you’ll see a trend.
This even helped me, Ms. Artiste. I never thought I wanted a white kitchen, but when I did this exercise, without fail, the kitchens I was drawn to were simple, clean and overwhelmingly light. Hmm. Go figure. You might be surprised.
Comment #9 by Tracy MAugust 20th, 2009 at 2:54 pmI like the ideas that have been given but I have to add this. Don’t get an attached spa w/ a waterfall. Especially one that is raised. If you ever want to put a cover of some kind on it it’s like thousands of dollars. So whatever you do, DON’T get a raised spa. Plus it’s so much easier to heat it if it’s a separate unit.
Not trying to make matters worse but we have that kind of system (didn’t build it) & it is the worst thing ever!
Oh, & we do have the pop ups & they are awesome. As far as the Frog system goes, we have it but aren’t using it because it’s become clogged w/ chemicals & even my pressure washer can’t get it working. Can you say pain in the tuckus?!
Comment #10 by Sues2u2August 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pmInteresting. Is your only complaint the cover issue, or are there other problems w/the raised spa?
What is the Frog system?
Oh, and Fairchild. I feel your pain. I love you for it. Is that weird?
Comment #11 by The WizAugust 20th, 2009 at 4:26 pmHave you ever browsed through Better Homes and Gardens for their gardening plans? http://www.bhg.com/gardening/plans/ It’s a great resource and helped me plan how to landscape my own back yard.
Comment #12 by KamiAugust 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pmPlease send the contact info for the Vulcan designer when you find one. I need them badly for my basement…
Good luck with your backyard. I’ve got nothing as is evidenced by my own unlanscaped one.
Comment #13 by mommymelAugust 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pmOnce upon a time we had a brand new little house on a half acre of desert. We felt lucky to get it fenced. We planted two or three trees which struggled, and the sod had a hard time too, except for that one spot over the septic tank. We knew what we wanted, but no money to do it.
Just for grins and giggles, why not give your kids a piece of paper and tell them to design the back yard?
Comment #14 by mormonhermitmomAugust 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pmA Vulcan landscape designer is going to tell you to stick with what you have - lots of bare rock and sunblasted desert. It looks just like home to a Vulcan! Kind of like Tatooine, but more intellectual.
Hire an Ewok. Then you can have cool trees. And a fur coat.
Comment #15 by Molly in the Jello BeltAugust 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pmWhere did you find your designer? Like, how did you know where to look for one? Because I need one. BAD. Even the ghetto is ashamed of my yard.
Comment #16 by SallyGirlAugust 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pmActually, this woman is the mother of one of my daughter’s friends. She met at her daughter’s bday party, and she came over for my daughter’s bday, and was talking about how she was a landscape designer, (MLA) and I asked her for some random ideas for my very bare yard, and she talked for a while and gave me her card. That was in January.
So when we sold the house six months later, we remembered that we liked what she had said and pulled out her card and gave her a call. We also called a MLA (someone who has a master’s in landscape architecture) that we knew in SLC to ask if her prices were reasonable, if she sounded like she knew what she was doing, because we didn’t have a clue. He gave us some good direction and said she sounded good. Plus, we looked at her portfolio and stuff.
Comment #17 by The WizAugust 21st, 2009 at 9:05 amLook through magazines/internet/books and mark what you like, then show it to your designer. Make sure to point out what it is in the picture that appeals to you-is it the flagstone, the arrangement of the features, the plants, the colors… (for example, in one pic you may like the stonework, but hate the patio furniture)
Comment #18 by HeidiAnnAugust 21st, 2009 at 9:57 amWiz - The spa issue is mostly that it runs in conjunction w/ the pool (it’s actually part of the circulating system) so trying to run it seperately ie, middle of winter when it’s too cold here to swim, means that you’ll be heating the spa AND pool. Very expensive. Plus if you’re gone for a bit & no one cleans the pool it can get caught in the spa. AND my dog ate some of the control spigots off. Very inconvenient. Want a dog?
The frog system is an way to get chlorine in your pool w/o you having to touch it. You have a mineral pack that you install once a season (easy) & then a chlorine pack that you place in the holder maybe once a week in the summer. It’s actually pretty great in that you don’t actually touch the chemicals & your kids won’t be touching chemicals either but if the chemicals get clogged somewhere it’s a pain in the butt. On the one hand it is great but right now when I can’t get it to work? I hate it. Hope this helps.
Comment #19 by Sues2u2August 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pmSues2u2 - do you have an option to run it in “spa” mode and heat it separately?
The pool companies we have talked to have said usually you’ll be in “pool” mode where the water circulates in both areas, but if you just want to run and heat the spa, then you go to “spa” mode, where the water will stay in the spa only, making it far cheaper to heat.
I know I remember sitting in our heated spa as a kid, getting too hot, jumping in the pool to cool down, back and forth, etc. etc, and that was 20+ years ago, so I don’t think it’s new technology.
You should call your pool company. It’s possible you have that option, but nobody showed you how to work it. Or maybe you have to add something, but if it’s not too expensive, it might be worth it to be able to heat your spa without doing your whole pool. (because doing your whole pool? mui expensivo.) And what’s the point of having a spa if you can’t use it in the winter?
I’m sure my dog will pee on the controls. However, I don’t think he’ll chew them off.
Comment #20 by The WizAugust 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pmDon’t forget that you live in Arizona. So unless you are in the pool, you won’t be spending That much time out there. So make it a big pool. My 2 cents
Comment #21 by mmilesAugust 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pmmmiles has a very good point. We like our grass, except it is infested with biting ants that we can’t get rid of, so we don’t play in the backyard anyway, even when it’s not 105 out. You could just have the pool take up the entire backyard area. Spa in one corner, firepit in another corner, and a nice big concrete patio with some potted plants.
I hope you share once you decide what you’re going to be putting in.
Comment #22 by kaduseyAugust 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pmWe actually do spend quite a bit of time out there in the evenings all year round.
Daytime, in the summer, you’re correct, mmiles. Only thing worth being outside for is a pool. And yes, it’ll be a pretty big one. It can’t take up the whole yard, though.
Wintertime, though, when it’s 65 in January, outside is fabulous.
I wouldn’t care for biting ant infestations, however….
Comment #23 by The WizAugust 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pmSince I’m coming to this late, I didn’t read the comments. I just have one piece of advice. We weren’t sure what to do with our yard either, so we got several people to come and make bids and basically offer free advice in hoping to win our business. Also, we hired a couple of different people on a very limited set fee consulting basis just to get ideas. It really, really, really helped. Because most people who saw our yard thought we needed to do one thing. But one of the professionals who saw our yard had another idea . . . and it was brilliant. Now that it’s done I can’t imagine we ever considered doing anything else. Yet if we hadn’t called in several people, we wouldn’t have. More ideas and more pairs of expert ideas examining your property is better. Much better.
You say that you already hired a landscape designer, so maybe it is too late for this advice, but probably not. If you are looking at a very expensive total yard remodel, it is really worth it to pay a $100 consulting fee here and there.
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